Hi Tracy, Thanks, for letting us know the inside scoop on Nic's films and why the films by Jerry Bruckheimer (I think were the best films that Nic did by the way) has to fight to have Nic in his films. It's sort of sad to hear that age in actors don't get the big production in films but Nick's are still great anyway to me. I perfer watching a Nick films compare to other actors who are getting the bigger block buster films. Nick rules! So glad that producer Jerry Bruckheimer really believes and supports Nic in all his films when he asked for him to perform in a film of his. Wish many more producers think like him. I'm still glad that Nick has a say to his films and it's up to him when and if he works or not. Yes, we are concern of him in health but his acting is his life and I think it does wonders for him. Nancy
Thanks for your response. I did want to correct one observation you made about my comments.
You said: I didn´t know Bruckheimer had to fight to have Nic in his movies every time, I always thougth since the first ones made big bucks Nic was a fixture in his action movies... Thanks for the info.
My comments: Did you know Jerry Bruckheimer has had to fight for Nic almost everytime he considers him to star in one of his movies (The Rock, Con-Air, Gone in Sixty Seconds, National Treasure)? Movie companies fought against casting Nic in "The Rock" but Jerry who was the producer fought for Nic and insisted!
Hi Tracy!! NICe to read you... I´m afraid I neglected to welcome you to the forum, absent-minded person that I am... Sorry about that. It´s great to have you added to our fold, the more Nicsters the merrier, LOL!
Your views on this matter are very interesting. I didn´t know Bruckheimer had to fight to have Nic in his movies every time, I always thougth since the first ones made big bucks Nic was a fixture in his action movies... Thanks for the info.
I agree with you, as stars get older, the roles offered to them aren´t the top notch ones but somehow they must get pretty formulaic projects (and the occasional dark horse).
And I´m also intrigued by his next choice as a director... Must be by definition a very personal project for him to sink his teeth into... Can´t wait!
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To Lula: I didn't really take the comments on this board as negative (though you didn't allude to that) but rather concerned. That's who true fans are I think. The concern over Nic's choices are valid. We're fans so of course we have a passionate point of view about Nic - whether it be concerned about the movie choices or enjoying his movie choices. I haven't read anything in these forums yet that spew anger or hostility, but rather passion for our man Nicolas Cage.
To All: One of the things Nic has said in the past and unfortunately it stings every actor and actress as they age, are the movie choices being offered. He's not being offered those amazing roles and opportunities anymore. That's the reality of it. With the exception of Jerry Bruckheimer, many producers, movie companies and directors in Hollywood aren't really interested in working with Nic when it comes to what they consider to be big budget productions.
Did you know Jerry Bruckheimer has had to fight for Nic almost everytime he considers him to star in one of his movies (The Rock, Con-Air, Gone in Sixty Seconds, National Treasure)? Movie companies fought against casting Nic in "The Rock" but Jerry who was the producer fought for Nic and insisted!
Nic is choosing from what "is" being offered to him these days and MAKING THE BEST OF IT. Can you imagine how these movies with weak story lines and scripts would turn out if Nic didn't but his amazing touch to it!!?? Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't - he's said it himself.
What's great is, he's creating opportunities for himself as well, even if producers aren't offering the better roles.
He brought to life "Ghost Rider!" The irony of it was the original studio liked the concept of "Ghost Rider" but not so much with Nic playing 'The Ghost Rider.' After the movie was made, they kept pushing the movie back because it was receiving negative feedback from test audiences. But, Nic persevered and the movie was finally released and I'd say for the most part, it made the studio money and there could possibly be a "Ghost Rider II!" "The Dresden Files" on the Sci-Fi channel was another one of Nic's projects. These projects Nic made because "he" wanted to and not because of what was being offered to him.
Nic has spoken many times about wanting to direct more... he's moving forward his craft and that tells us he still has passion for the business of making movies.
What we have to do as fans is continue things like Cagefactor... get out and see Nic's movies and encourage others to do the same .
I agree with the opinion that NIC is copletely responsible for the choices he made. I think that movies are something like the fuel for him. And he has to recognize if there is a place for taking rest. My job is also fuel for me, in spite of feeling sick or tired. I will do this, and I think NIC will do movies too, just because he wants to do this. We only could hope that he will be more carefull.
To Lula: I didn't really take the comments on this board as negative (though you didn't allude to that) but rather concerned. That's who true fans are I think. The concern over Nic's choices are valid. We're fans so of course we have a passionate point of view about Nic - whether it be concerned about the movie choices or enjoying his movie choices. I haven't read anything in these forums yet that spew anger or hostility, but rather passion for our man Nicolas Cage.
To All: One of the things Nic has said in the past and unfortunately it stings every actor and actress as they age, are the movie choices being offered. He's not being offered those amazing roles and opportunities anymore. That's the reality of it. With the exception of Jerry Bruckheimer, many producers, movie companies and directors in Hollywood aren't really interested in working with Nic when it comes to what they consider to be big budget productions.
Did you know Jerry Bruckheimer has had to fight for Nic almost everytime he considers him to star in one of his movies (The Rock, Con-Air, Gone in Sixty Seconds, National Treasure)? Movie companies fought against casting Nic in "The Rock" but Jerry who was the producer fought for Nic and insisted!
Nic is choosing from what "is" being offered to him these days and MAKING THE BEST OF IT. Can you imagine how these movies with weak story lines and scripts would turn out if Nic didn't but his amazing touch to it!!?? Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't - he's said it himself.
What's great is, he's creating opportunities for himself as well, even if producers aren't offering the better roles.
He brought to life "Ghost Rider!" The irony of it was the original studio liked the concept of "Ghost Rider" but not so much with Nic playing 'The Ghost Rider.' After the movie was made, they kept pushing the movie back because it was receiving negative feedback from test audiences. But, Nic persevered and the movie was finally released and I'd say for the most part, it made the studio money and there could possibly be a "Ghost Rider II!" "The Dresden Files" on the Sci-Fi channel was another one of Nic's projects. These projects Nic made because "he" wanted to and not because of what was being offered to him.
Nic has spoken many times about wanting to direct more... he's moving forward his craft and that tells us he still has passion for the business of making movies.
What we have to do as fans is continue things like Cagefactor... get out and see Nic's movies and encourage others to do the same .
Thanks for your comments, ladies! They are all great!!
To CagedEnigma, I just feel that some of them aren't appealling from others' opinions. Actually, that's not what I think, and I do think some films that aren't so popular like 8mm really catches my eye. Among all the films I've seen, only Gone In Sixty Seconds is kind of disappointing to me, for I can't feel anything nor have comments on it. That's all.
To Mara, I agree with you... Maybe Nic should take a meaningful rest to move on with more energy later and challenge those critics boldly as he always does!
And to Lula... you're right. How many films Nic chooses to be in in a year depends on himself, we can't decide for him. Just hopes he can take good care of himself while keeping making more amazing films for us! :)
I think Nic has made great film choices in the last few years and am really excited about all of his upcoming projects too. But to be honest I don't feel it is particularly our place to scrutinize the choices he makes, because they are his to make! Who knows what his priorities are or how they change, but he is a human being with his own free will to choose whatever path is right for him. I guess this is why I don't usually get involved in these conversations that seem to echo round and round about Nic making certain choices. What is he to do? Please the action fans by only choosing those kinds of films? Stick to the edgy dark little numbers to suit those who say he is selling out by choosing lighter roles or action? To be the congruent, honest, organic and genuine actor that he is, he can really only go with the roles that speak to him, or he would not be able to perform with the authenticity that he does. I'm a happy fan, Nic has given so much over the years I truly believe he owes us nothing, and that his choices are his to make! While I'm having a bit of a rare rant, (it must be due to the full moon of last night!) I don't really think it is for us to say whether Nic needs a break or not either! I obviously hope he enjoys what he is doing, and it certainly looks that way because it his passion and drive that helps him continuously redeliver!
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Interesting topic. My personal opinion is, Nic should stop for a while to have a meaningful rest, a week won´t do after filming three movies in a row, he might take a break for several months and make good use of his off time to reload his batteries... BUT I´m no counselor of his of course. He will go ahead making bold choices and fighting prejudices and displaying his versatility and draining his energies... A commited artist cannot either rush nor stop the flow of inspiration, I guess.
WOW CagedEnigma I couldn't have said it better I agree!!
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I saw BD the weekend it came out and I loved it. It wasn't just because Nic was in it, however. I was intrigued with the ideal that one man truly cannot have it all, and so the movie appealed to me in a broad spectrum. I think that people who go see Nic's movies these days go with a sour attitude already. Nic's films always come wrapped in a blanket of controversy because people want to write him off before they even see the film. No one gives him a chance anymore and it frustrates the living hell out of me. Nic takes chances with the roles he picks; they're not all Oscar material and I'm sure he knows that.
While I am all for having common sense in choosing what movies he does, I think he's doing a fine job of sticking to what he's always been good at; being himself. No, he isn't one of those glamour actors who has the Midas touch. But I've found that I prefer watching him to watching someone else who is afraid to leave their comfort zone.
What do you think, onlyNic? What films have you seen or heard of his that are unappealing to you? I don't mean anything by these questions more than common curiousity. =)
I saw BD the weekend it came out and I loved it. It wasn't just because Nic was in it, however. I was intrigued with the ideal that one man truly cannot have it all, and so the movie appealed to me in a broad spectrum. I think that people who go see Nic's movies these days go with a sour attitude already. Nic's films always come wrapped in a blanket of controversy because people want to write him off before they even see the film. No one gives him a chance anymore and it frustrates the living hell out of me. Nic takes chances with the roles he picks; they're not all Oscar material and I'm sure he knows that.
While I am all for having common sense in choosing what movies he does, I think he's doing a fine job of sticking to what he's always been good at; being himself. No, he isn't one of those glamour actors who has the Midas touch. But I've found that I prefer watching him to watching someone else who is afraid to leave their comfort zone.
What do you think, onlyNic? What films have you seen or heard of his that are unappealing to you? I don't mean anything by these questions more than common curiousity. =)
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I stopped by IMDB yesterday, and I found another movie in pre-production--- The Sorcerer's Apprentice.
It's great to see that there are so many films featuring Nic in the next two years, but maybe he should take a rest? Bangkok Dangerous was released in Taiwan last week. However, most of the moviegoers seem to be more interested in Eagle Eyes(featuring Shia LaBeouf) and Body of Lies(featuring Leonardo DiCarpio & Russell Crowe); people who has watched BD didn't give it too much good comments, either.
I don't know... Nic's acting is still gorgeous, but should he choose scripts more carefully? Some movies he decided to act in these years aren't really that attracting!!
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) I don't really think it is for us to say whether Nic needs a break or not either! I obviously hope he enjoys what he is doing, and it certainly looks that way because it his passion and drive that helps him continuously redeliver!
